Sorry...

...but i just read this and i had to comment on it somewhere.

http://theguide.latimes.com/ToddMartens/lists/146620/best-beer-bars

that is a list of "the best beer bars in Los Angeles." 

i just wanted to say...the BEST beer bar on this list would be considered average north of Bend, Oregon. father's office (#1) on the list would be shunned for the way it treats it's customers if it opened a location in the Pacific Northwest. the TRUELY best of the list in my opinion would be Lucky Baldwins, it doesn't put on heirs, but has a great selection. (and they make their own beer!) 

all this article did was prove to me that Los Angeles is still YEARS behind the Pac-Northwest when it comes to good beer. (my tavern idea would KILL down here!)